vote menu - number of kickvotes

Titan

It seems the required number of kick votes and majority values are on their defaults.

I would suggest, to set the minimum from 4 to 3, to make it easier to kickvote a player. The majority is set to >50%, which will never works on >10 players. I Suggest to set it on 30% maybe.

snowguy

Titan
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm open to changes but in this case I will just try to explain why the settings are set this way.

I made it so there had to be a minimum of 4 players for kick votes to take effect because the server used to have 2 players that were friends playing every night and whenever someone else would join they would kick the 3rd player from the server effectively keeping the server private for multiple hours each night. Setting this to 3 players minimum for kick voting would still allow just 2 players to be able to basically own the server as they could then just kick the 3rd player each time one joined. The same could still take place if 3 players joined and voted to kick together now but it is less likely for this to happen than with just 2 players voting together.

I really only leave the kick vote enabled because around 4 times per year (rough estimate) a player will join with a full on snapping to targets aimbot and as much as I try I just can't monitor the server 24/7. This way at least the players do have the opportunity to remove someone like this until I notice and start blocking them myself. I do agree that it is often hard to get greater than 50% of players to vote together for kicking but that is really by design. By lowering it, players would often get kicked for reasons other than cheating and that is not the goal of the kick vote on the server.

Anyway, those are the reasons for these settings. Everyone please feel free to continue the discussion and make a case for why they should be changed.

ESUOH

Less is better , like titan says , some rly need to get kicked from the start , or its 30min long bulls-hit..

reg

yeah.. heu.. not sure about this one ahah ;D. >50 is pretty good tbh, you can even increase it to >60

ESUOH

Reg gonna get kicked llollllll

ESUOH

snowguy Ok. if i understand you want it alone for cheaters the kickvote? But now we also kick for players who didnt grabbed or we allrdy know that they not gonna grab , or spawnkill all game or camping all game etc.. that are the ones who needs to be kicked from the start so they might learn or they dont.. but they will be kicked again then... but its hard to kick them if you need to much votes , I think the most players , who play like it should , they are mature enough to kick only such persons/players ,
I also know that a player like sad but true will be kicked every single game and thats not what you want probably and i neither without any proof of cheat. im not defending sad but like in real life you need proof to be accused of something so players like him should be protected...my thought..greets esuoh .

Titan

snowguy I made it so there had to be a minimum of 4 players for kick votes to take effect because the server used to have 2 players that were friends playing every night and whenever someone else would join they would kick the 3rd player from the server effectively keeping the server private for multiple hours each night

Your example don't fit, because I suggested a min of 3 votes. The 3rd players must kick vote himself, then your example works.
I'm not sure on the 2nd condition, but I think it must a combination of X votes + majority (>50% atm).

Please rethink the configuration as your example don't work and the >50% never worked, when server is filled up.

snowguy

ESUOH
Yes, I only leave kick vote enabled for that off chance that I don't notice or am not around when the full on bots join.

I completely understand that players kick for other reasons even to anonymously say they were unhappy with the other player's performance and since the kick vote percent is > 50 this doesn't matter much.

ESUOH

snowguy ok 🙂 yea , like you say or for other reasons...by now probably a loth of players just wanna kick me for saying my thing , you know the thruth hurts , for some its a egothing i guess.. The problem is if you lower the needed kickvotes , maybe some good playing ctf-players just gonna ge kicked by the noobs for playing to good and because they just like to kick and thats gonna be a mess, i dont wanna get kicked for killing someone too much . if you got more then 200-300frags your suddenly a cheater, or for the reason mentioned before, they just dont like you lloll 🙂

snowguy

Titan Your example don't fit, because I suggested a min of 3 votes. The 3rd players must kick vote himself, then your example works.

My apologies, I misunderstood what you meant about the minimum number to kick. I was speaking of the minimum number of players on the server for kicking to work whereas you were speaking of having a minimum number of votes required to kick.

There currently isn't a setting for a minimum number of kick votes that are required for a kick to happen. There is only the setting for percentage of players that must vote to kick a player for there to be a kick.

This idea of having a minimum number of kick votes is interesting and I will consider it for the next version of map vote but I have many more things on my list to do first 🙁

zcbz

lowering the number of kickvotes to below 50% is a bit risky to be honest.. even if it doesn't work when the server is full and someone is cheating.

small number of votes kicking a player that is controlling a server is unfair and probably will just ostracize the good player, he/she might decide that its pointless to come back.