Ooper, effibrie, Lilia, please i'm not having a good time if to much of those guys enter. Sometime i just want to have a chill match without carpal tunnel syndrome. so please dont go "training" and making it worse for me. Its becoming as hard as Quake. atleast some guys you can use certain tactics. Effibrie cant switch fast with grapple and in certain maps he seems to have a very predictable route he takes everytime. also Annoying and Bustacell i find it very satisfying killing them before they start bunnyhopping or shoot them when they are grappling like Duckhunt.