Ann0ying Is the guy a cheater or not? For me he looks like it...

Yes, for me it is too, I played vs him several games on LONDON, definately a botter, he had 2x / 3x more scores than other good players, shooting everyone like ducks, like insane Robocop / Terminator, I was playing vs many good players in my life, and none of them were acting like this guy.

And again: famous "Ooper 'n jerc Netflix duo" defending a suspected player, not a surprise...

And you're trolling / projecting again... you just told one fairy tale in previous thread, and you're already telling another fairy tale in another thread, and you haven't provided links as a proof to any of them, curious where you got this fairy tale about "100 points", I can do the same and also write a fairy tale about you that for you everyone is not a cheater, even those who have 1000 points more and are complained about by several other players.

Ooper

So you still haven't provided any links as a proof for your previous two fairy tales: about "novice bots" LINK , and about "100 points" LINK, and now your another, third fairy tale, about "calling every player a cheater", again without any provided argumentation / links...curious how did you do the calculations / math to get a result: "every player"?

players marked as botters on Gonzales's blacklist on HOF forum thread + effibrie: 75
LONDON stats: 24814 TOTAL PLAYERS
now a simple math: 75/1000 = 0,3 %, even dividing 24814 by 10 = 2481, we have: 75/2481 = 3% and you call it "everybody", What if he provides a whitelist of fair players with most players on it, are you then going to be consistent with your "argumentation" and going to say then: he is calling every player a fair player? Or your "every player argumentation" works only in one direction? Better stop trolling or start providing argumentation for your fairy tales.

Ooper

Jeez i knew Kragoth was shady... now i am sure of it! It's the obvious 1!

Ooper

Ooper: There are not 24814 unique players on the server, there are 24814 unique names used on the server.

I didn't say they are all unique players, I just quoted what LONDON gametracker site says, and then I divided it further by 10, so why are you still trolling (also I don't know why that would even matter anyway: players or names...).

Ooper: Everyone is this screenshot that is a cheater has more than 100 points.

So you cherry-picked 2 out of 10 or 15 screenshoots, and on the second one there are two other players who have more than 100 points and they were not accused, the only players on the both screenshoots who were accused are Driver and pitok, which means accused 2 out of 4, not "everybody", maybe you mistakenly thought all players on the screenshoots were accused, maybe you misread the context, the only accused players are those who are on the blacklist. Also Driver and pitok's scores from the two screenshoots are much higher than just "100": 210 + 174 + 365 + 485 = 308,5 scores average, your "100 points rule" seems not fitting well and overcolours the real situation and causes falsification. Also on the first screenshoot Driver and pitok's time is 8 which means they joined recently and didn't played the whole game since the beginning, if they did, they could get not 200, but 300 or 400 averagely, just like on the second screenshoot where they played 15 minutes, which could bump up their 308,5 average score of the two screenshoots up to 400...scores also depends on many other factors: how many and what players (skilled ,weak, botters ) are in a game, what is the map, and like already said, how much time played on a map. Saying " 100 points" stories is manipulating / fitting a storyline to the facts to discredit someone cheap way as most of botters has usually much more than 100, so any screenshoot will be made, will always fit well to your "100 points" storyline...

I stand corrected, it's only people that get slightly more points then you or people you like, that are cheaters.

No need to directly paste embed screenshoots, it makes a thread hardly readable, links to screenshoots would be sufficient.

Ooper: people you like that are cheaters.

The previous storyline didn't work, so here you coming up with new ones....another of your storylines which can fit to many screenshoots...Gonzales was playing vs all of them before making his screenshoots/accusations, that's how he knew they were botters.

Ooper: it's only people that get slightly more than you

Then many screenshoots, like: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4, 7, 10, 13, 18 doesn't fit to it, as there is no Gonzales on the scoreboard / in the game, also screenshoots 1 ,3 ,4, 13 not many scores because it's just a beggining of the game, because he already played many times before vs botters who are on the screenshoots, so he didn't need always to play every time vs them and join the game, to make screenshoots.

On screenshoot 5 is everything explained: most players from red team switched to a blue team, to avoid being headshooted all the time by a botter, switching to the other team is a common practice on servers when encuntering a botter, ask any player, you should have know it already by yourself, shouldn't you...strange. Also when excluding the botter, Gonzales is currently the best player in the game, because he is very strong in this map, so he easily knows who is botting, you can also ask other players who are present on the screenshoot that yaaaY was an obvious botter, players like copy_paste, Chefe, Domi, abrazmaan, are fair skilled players, which you could meet often on servers like: Fast Smoking, the Old ComboGib or FACE, if you ask them about this screenshoot I'm sure they will confirm yaaY was a botter, AdolfPutler is rather a novice so asking him anything is pointless, Vanessa is a sexy woman sniper-camper who hides in the sky, she has sexy panties (but Plushie is sexy too with her pretty piston).

On screenshoot 6 also doesn't fit, becasue there is also Dereon who has much more scores than Gonzales, but only Anaconda is accused, 1 out of 2.
On Screenshoot 8 was a festival of botters: Gonzales knew already and played before vs most of them.
On screenshoot 9: doesn't fit because Mordimer was not accused.
On screenshoot 11: doesn't fit because only 2 out of 9 players who have higher scores than Gonzales were accused, and 2 other players who were accused had less scores than Gonzales...
On screenshoot 14: doesn't fit because 2 out of 4 who had more scores were accused
On screenshoot 15: doesn't fit because 3 out of 4 players who were accused had less scores than Gonzales...
On Screenshoot 16: doesn't fit because 4 out of 6 who had more scores were acccused
On Screenshoot 17: doesn't fit because 2 out of 4 players who had more scores were accused

Only 5 out of 17 screenshoots might fit to your storyline, and some of them might fit only accidentaly, so maybe 2 or 3 fits to your storyline.

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Go troll elsewhere with your spam you moron, if you have nothing constructive to say...one topic is not enought so you move on to another?

Not necessarily. Snowguy encourages public debates on such shady topics. I don't know why you get your panties entwined on seeing a suspect demo. If that is not shady I don't know what is. You are dangerously close to interfering with democratic process, again. I don't even know why you haunt the forums if you gonna cry about democratic demo postings.

I have practical (yeah not theory) feeling that you should keep your theory to yourself. How do you feel about that?
A. offeded
B. pleased
C. clueless
D. attention grabber
If A, then this is how demo posters also feel, if B then you may have logical reason for being non-democratic and should not have anything against demos, if C go have a fruit, and if D play fortnite instead where millions will satiate your thirst of attention.