PepsiCola Videos can't always prove smart botters

The only sensible thing that you wrote, m8.
Just because Jerc defended cheater, doesn't mean that he himself supports it or does it, dude just made a mistake. (Well, i got that impression from his defending rant about sbt etc, since his argument is about a principle of "banning only with solid proofs", rather than "i can vouch for that player").
Ooper cheating? Well, after his stunt with posting bot here - good luck with that, lol: he's on the radar now for any1 who saw that post, so any slightly sus thing might get him bannned.

It's a fight with windmills

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the_cowboy
It is, that's the point.. anyway Ooper is legit i beat him a few times on woot nothing crazy you're all just over reacting

    "Schizazoid: The only sensible thing that you wrote, m8."

    So tell then what are the other - the unreasonable things I wrote and why, unless they are only because you've written so....

    "Schizazoid: Just because Jerc defended cheater, doesn't mean that he himself supports it or does it"

    I agree. And who said he does...? Because certainly not me, I only said a fact that someone said he was caught defending a proven cheater, whether he (Jerc) did it intentionally or by mistake, is another matter and I don't know it, but the fact is that he did it, suggesting I suggested that Jerc did it intentionally, isn't truth and isn't very sensible m8...

    "Schizazoid: Ooper cheating? Well, after his stunt with posting bot here - good luck with that, lol: he's on the radar now for any1 who saw that post, so any slightly sus thing might get him bannned."

    He also posted videos at his public Twitch TV, with him using an aimbot in UT99, bypassing ACE v1.2e, at InstaGib UK server, it's a premium cheat, either he bought it by himself or his friend gave it to him, it seems it's what all botters use nowadays in UT99:
    VIDEO 1: Cheating in Unreal Tournament Trying loquebot
    VIDEO 2: Unreal Tournament loquebot sucks
    FORUM DISCUSSION 1: loquebot - ut99.org
    FORUM DISCUSSION 2: is this Cheat real? - unrealkillers.com

      Ofc he fools for the troll loquebot video, I completely forgot about the farting video lmao.

      set input leftmouse fire | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft | turnleft

      LOL Caught what a loaded way of wording that like I'm some guy knowingly helping people to aimbot. Gonzo and OFB team-up to catch cheaters is like a really bad netflix series only sorry lucas would watch. For the record NO ONE that I've so called defended has ever been proven to be cheating later on. WTF is OFB's Dog she comes back but dogless.

      "fools" Not fools, troll video or not, a fact - a guy using/demonstrating an aimbot, so better people know.

      "jerc" As explained above to Schizazoid, no one said that you helped knowingly, you're projecting or having problems reading plain english. Jerc and Ooper team, a very good Netflix duo...so OFB and "Everyone on the UK servers even say Baby Doll is a notorious botter." are wrong, just not you... "jerc: WTF is OFB's Dog she comes back but dogless." - excuse me, - unable to decode your slang.

        PepsiCola And who said he does...?

        PepsiCola no one said that you helped knowingly

        Maybe I'm missing something about english as a language, but your wording with calling out Jerc and other ppl sounds more like accusation. Your initial wording here is plain: "JERC DEFENDS BOTTERS AND WAS CAUGHT RED HANDED!" Hell, even post on hof that you linked contains lines such as: "you are for some reason defending a cheater / friend or you are the cheater", "Cheaters will stick together and defend one another".
        Yes, you can argue, that "implying =/= saying" - but that's just semantics and it doesn't really matter, because main message that you send to ppl is: "x-guy is untrustworthy cuz y-thing".

        PepsiCola the unreasonable things I wrote

        I'd have to quote almost everything you write, man. From "x defend y who is cheating and caught red handed", to "he openly streamed himself cheating under his main alias - that means he have malicious interest", while linking fucking troll-videos as a proof, lol. Or saying that "x blacklisted from servers" while linking not an actual information about ban on specific server., but a post from user, who basically admits to abusing votekick-tool through multiboxing and wondering why he got banned, lol.
        It's just hilarious and sad at the same time.

        The fact that Pepsi just had to bring up Babydoll leads me to believe Pepsi is OutForBlood just trying to stir up shit.

        OutForBlood is from the USA right? Gonzales is Polish. If you see a Polish player with noname, or one that gets 10% the kills of the worst player in the team then you know you've played with Gonzales, or when he posts screenshots of him playing against novice bots from the fake player server as proof that people are cheating.

        Schizazoid: (...) sounds more like accusation. Your initial wording here is plain (...)

        I only meant that players he defends, are considered botters for me and for several other players, I didn't say jerc does it on purpose (which doesn't mean he doesn't), he has a right to think they aren't botters.

        Schizazoid: Hell, even post on hof that you linked contains (...)

        Yes, this sounds like an accusation, but was written to someone else (to fleecey_{HoF}) who was defending someone else (Cardenas) which is one of the biggest and most obvious botter in galaxy.

        Schizazoid: I'd have to quote almost everything you write, man. From "x defend y who is cheating and caught red handed",

        Lol, "caught" it's a quote from OutForBlood, followed by a link, go educate what is a quote.

        Schizazoid: to "he openly streamed himself cheating under his main alias

        Because he did, lol.

        Schizazoid: - that means he have malicious interest", while linking fucking troll-videos as a proof, lol

        You said that (about "malicious interest" and "proof"), not me, try not to put your words in my mouth.

        Schizazoid: . Or saying that "x blacklisted from servers" while linking not an actual information about ban on specific server., but a post from user,

        Quoting, not saying, go complain to tha author: OutForBlood, not to me.

        Schizazoid: who basically admits to abusing votekick-tool through multiboxing and wondering why he got banned, lol.

        I didn't know that, "could you link an actual information about it" ?

        jerc: The fact that Pepsi just had to bring up Babydoll leads me to believe Pepsi is OutForBlood just trying to stir up shit.

        So you're projecting more and more...

        Ooper: If you see a (...)

        If you see a UK player with name Ooper, or one that gets 2x or 3x the kills of the best fair player in the team, or kills even better than many proven botters, then you know you've played with Ooper or a similiar player.

        Ooper: or when he posts screenshots of him playing against novice bots from the fake player server

        Not a bad tale/hypothesis, just that you didn't provide any actual link to the screenshoots.

        Ooper: as proof that people are cheating.

        He was playing vs botters, so he knows they are botters, also he recorded several videos of several botters as an additional proof, then he got bored wasting his time just to record all losers, as he actually preffered to spent his time playing a game, than recording losers and fighting with their defenders over forums.

          You still think that loquebot video is real even though I gave you a keybind to replicate the mouse fire the spin effect, you want the webpage as well?

          Webpage with the music files:
          Just the webpage:

          index.html
          21kB

          I don't want to say anything but it makes me think...

          It was yesterday's game and it's up to you all how to understand and judge it.

          the_cowboy

          I just read this thread, you call this evidence or what? What exactly turned up, this remark?? 🤣
          Anyone can say anything about everyone, that doesnt mean it is true!

          How old are you guys, posting shit like this!! lmao

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            dickfish has been around since.. forever

            This is what we are talking about when someone speaks behind someone else's back, it does not mean the truth.
            This rule has always worked for me and in life too

            PepsiCola are considered botters for me and for several other players

            So, now they aren't "prooved botters" but are "considered botters for me and some other players", good to know.

            PepsiCola "caught" it's a quote from OutForBlood

            Right, so, you didn't wrote the following:

            PepsiCola Jerc defends botters, and was caught defending a proven botter:

            It's just me hallucinating, right?
            If that's a quote from someone else - you better write it like a quote, not like your "direct" line.

            PepsiCola Quoting, not saying

            Nevertheless, the point about proofs still stands. If you think that list that some dude made is a good proof - sorry m8, it is not.

            PepsiCola Because he did, lol.

            What you linked is a troll videos ffs. Nobody in their right mind will make a bot that turns you around on shots, not only it's just makes you detectable by simple observing without any kind of analysis, it's also just not needed in ut. (Don't bring up spinbots from cs:go, it's build different).
            From what I can tell in first twich "clip" - opper doesn't cheat, just, like he said above, made alias fire/turn/turn/turn, he "switches on" radar option of that "cheat" and it doesn't show up etc.
            I might be wrong, since I haven't played against ooper extensively, but c'mon, there's too many things that doesn't make any sense.

            PepsiCola try not to put your words in my mouth.

            I just decribed your message behind your post.
            In before you link screenshots of ooper or any one else playing with bot/radar against bots: showcasing in a controlled environment how cheats works might help public with understanding and detecting cheats, since there's no magic behind it, only behavioral patterns.

              It is amazing how the creatures from the dark side of fantasy lands reheat the chops and how people who are deprived of their own will and imagination are drawn into it. And the best part is when these people try to translate the previous statements of others, writing it out like mathematical equations, without any awareness that they themselves are only hosts of parasites.

              Jacey Clearly your reading skills need improvement. If you just want to troll under the veil of democratic questions, good luck.

              If you really want answer, yeah that shows the shady nature of ooper to me, maybe not to you or anybody else and I ain't gonna shit shame you for that. Of all the trolling concepts our ooper chooses to make a bot troll video (to serve what purpose, waste of time?) that in my books is pretty shady.

              BTW my understanding of ooper is changing, slowly, from shady to not so shady.