Schizazoid: (...) sounds more like accusation. Your initial wording here is plain (...)

I only meant that players he defends, are considered botters for me and for several other players, I didn't say jerc does it on purpose (which doesn't mean he doesn't), he has a right to think they aren't botters.

Schizazoid: Hell, even post on hof that you linked contains (...)

Yes, this sounds like an accusation, but was written to someone else (to fleecey_{HoF}) who was defending someone else (Cardenas) which is one of the biggest and most obvious botter in galaxy.

Schizazoid: I'd have to quote almost everything you write, man. From "x defend y who is cheating and caught red handed",

Lol, "caught" it's a quote from OutForBlood, followed by a link, go educate what is a quote.

Schizazoid: to "he openly streamed himself cheating under his main alias

Because he did, lol.

Schizazoid: - that means he have malicious interest", while linking fucking troll-videos as a proof, lol

You said that (about "malicious interest" and "proof"), not me, try not to put your words in my mouth.

Schizazoid: . Or saying that "x blacklisted from servers" while linking not an actual information about ban on specific server., but a post from user,

Quoting, not saying, go complain to tha author: OutForBlood, not to me.

Schizazoid: who basically admits to abusing votekick-tool through multiboxing and wondering why he got banned, lol.

I didn't know that, "could you link an actual information about it" ?

jerc: The fact that Pepsi just had to bring up Babydoll leads me to believe Pepsi is OutForBlood just trying to stir up shit.

So you're projecting more and more...

Ooper: If you see a (...)

If you see a UK player with name Ooper, or one that gets 2x or 3x the kills of the best fair player in the team, or kills even better than many proven botters, then you know you've played with Ooper or a similiar player.

Ooper: or when he posts screenshots of him playing against novice bots from the fake player server

Not a bad tale/hypothesis, just that you didn't provide any actual link to the screenshoots.

Ooper: as proof that people are cheating.

He was playing vs botters, so he knows they are botters, also he recorded several videos of several botters as an additional proof, then he got bored wasting his time just to record all losers, as he actually preffered to spent his time playing a game, than recording losers and fighting with their defenders over forums.

the_cowboy

I just read this thread, you call this evidence or what? What exactly turned up, this remark??
Anyone can say anything about everyone, that doesnt mean it is true!

How old are you guys, posting shit like this!! lmao

dickfish has been around since.. forever

This is what we are talking about when someone speaks behind someone else's back, it does not mean the truth.
This rule has always worked for me and in life too

PepsiCola are considered botters for me and for several other players

So, now they aren't "prooved botters" but are "considered botters for me and some other players", good to know.

PepsiCola "caught" it's a quote from OutForBlood

Right, so, you didn't wrote the following:

PepsiCola Jerc defends botters, and was caught defending a proven botter:

It's just me hallucinating, right?
If that's a quote from someone else - you better write it like a quote, not like your "direct" line.

PepsiCola Quoting, not saying

Nevertheless, the point about proofs still stands. If you think that list that some dude made is a good proof - sorry m8, it is not.

PepsiCola Because he did, lol.

What you linked is a troll videos ffs. Nobody in their right mind will make a bot that turns you around on shots, not only it's just makes you detectable by simple observing without any kind of analysis, it's also just not needed in ut. (Don't bring up spinbots from cs:go, it's build different).
From what I can tell in first twich "clip" - opper doesn't cheat, just, like he said above, made alias fire/turn/turn/turn, he "switches on" radar option of that "cheat" and it doesn't show up etc.
I might be wrong, since I haven't played against ooper extensively, but c'mon, there's too many things that doesn't make any sense.

PepsiCola try not to put your words in my mouth.

I just decribed your message behind your post.
In before you link screenshots of ooper or any one else playing with bot/radar against bots: showcasing in a controlled environment how cheats works might help public with understanding and detecting cheats, since there's no magic behind it, only behavioral patterns.

Schizazoid

Don't manipulate what I said, I said "a proven botter " (Dolly), not botters, and OutForBlood described him as a proven botter, I used my own words to describe what he said, but still a kind of quote,, and using your argumentation: "Yes, you can argue, that "a kind of quote =/= a quote" - but that's just semantics and it doesn't really matter, because main message that I send is what OutForBlood said, just using different wording." if you like better you can stick to what he said.

Schizazoid: troll video, showcasing in a controlled environment how cheats works might help public with understanding and detecting cheats, since there's no magic behind it, only behavioral patterns.

Yes, I realized it's a fake video but it was too late to edit my comment, but it doesn't change the fact that it might look like a promotion of a cheat tool under the guise of a joke (same name of a cheat tool, identical look), similiar to him posting links to a cheat tool on this forum.

PepsiCola it was too late to edit my comment

Could've edit the later reply to me erasing following:

PepsiCola Because he did, lol.

Or just posting something like:"Guys, sorry, videos are trollpost, should've known better".

PepsiCola might look like a promotion of a cheat tool

Yeah, mastermind Ooper making waves and plotting schemes and we failed for that. C'mon man, don't be that way.
Actual "premium" cheats need no advertisement because it's all done in private groups and channels. Publicity for a cheat = death, because out of all ppl who'll learn about said cheat there will inevitably be some guy who would buy it just to leak it to ppl who supervise anticheat updates.
And while I agree, that stunt with posting triggerbot on forum was dumb af and added problems to already problematic environment. If only he would've build in some backdoor or some other shit in it to punish any one who would be foolish enough to run it... but that's kinda illegal.