lol Reminds me of the final scene from IT movie when the clown got smaller and smaller 
(cheater) player1 - and his huge number of frags/points
Whats the point of accusing people with screenshots ? Hes not going to be banned with a screenshot ,
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Schizazoid high score on joust is not something out of ordinary
Lol, this is not a high score, this is an insane score, come one, are you on drugs or drunk? What you saying is laughable.
ESUOH Whats the point of accusing people with screenshots ? Hes not going to be banned with a screenshot
Schizazoid And screenshot of scoreboard as a proof? It's laughable.
Why not, the insane result speaks for itself, also the screenshoot is full of statistics, also provided a link to the match where you can find all the statistics, I think you are either drunk or on drugs, if you saying only a video can prove anything, really...what you saying is laughable and I'm not just ping-ponging what you said, what you said REALLY is laughable.
2.91% accuracy the worst of any of 20 or so players, yeah you are a good player I'm wrong https://eatsleeput.com/utstats/?p=match&mid=34994
Oh no you had a good game here, you got 3.35% accuracy that time good job https://eatsleeput.com/utstats/?p=match&mid=34902
IIRC chain kills get you additional points (granted that 1 frag=1 pt). Plus, caps, grabs, flagkills, covers give you points also (I don't recall numbers). Judging by number of combos (405) and time (player present for the most part of the match from the start) we can assume that player was spamming combos on respawn and getting chainkills (3 godlikes in both matches). If you lucky enough and know where to sit you can get "high" numbers, it's joust after all.
And if you insist on using match stats, well, look up his last matches on liandri, duku, woot and whatnot - no "insane" numbers present - what to make of it, hm?
PepsiCola Why not
Because it doesn't prove anything at all. It's a bunch of numbers, but numbers alone don't give you much. Hell, even "efficiency" and "accuracy" don't give much info just by itself.
PepsiCola if you saying only a video can prove anything
I for one saying that demo can give you (well, us) more information: his positioning, what he did, how he aimed etc. Yes, demos lack some information (you can't exactly see how player tweaked his game), but still, it contains more info that just isolated numbers alone.
It's not that hard to understand.
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You pretend to be an expert, but the irony is you are too stupid or forgot how combos accuracy % are counted:
LINK 1, LINK 2 you fuckin retard, just like another idiot: Nicefu who only blindly and stupidly rely on what you say, because he is too stupid to verify what you say or too stupid to invent something on his own.
The % of combo accuracy reported in stats is far lower than it actually is, because if you kill several players at once with a single combo shock, % of combo accuracy reported in stats is way lowered.
Hence given I'm a heavy combo player, so most of the time I use combos, and only rarely a primary weapon, thus comparing a raw % of my combo accuracy to % of primary weapon accuracy of those CS/COD/Battlefield etc. primary weapon players, who never or rarely dodge, jump, or comboing, grappling, is like comparing apples to oranges.
Stop comparing % you idiot if you don't know how to do the math, what matters is the final frags/points scores.
There ae many good combo players who have low % combo accuracy, not their fault how the % combo accuracy is calculated in stats. Don't use this flaw to troll players they are bad, what a fucking moron.
Now if I wanted to be ironic I could paste here a player_0's comment: LINK and say that: "You just turned the whole law of universal gravitation upside down. You have abolished uniform rectilinear motion in one move. How you inspired me, boy!" and then lets everybody laught of you.
You losers cherry-pick some shit and troll me with it, so now I cherry-picking a good game, and fuck off:
Schizazoid Because it doesn't prove anything at all. It's a bunch of numbers, but numbers alone don't give you much. Hell, even "efficiency" and "accuracy" don't give much info just by itself.
Great, glad you have admitted, that Ooper is just an idiot with his faulty % accuracy caluclations and comparisions..maybe now go and try to tell the same to him that his % are worth a shit, why only telling it to me?...
As for screenshoots + stas vs a video, even if most of time videos are posted as a proof, it doesn't mean that occasionally screenshoots + stats can't serve as a proof.
And now to all trolls: fuck off losers, stop crying, and don't turn this thread into your another private lame trollposting thread for personal attacks, go troll elsewhere., otherwise I create a thread about how I fucked your mothers.
Now: fuck off.
PepsiCola maybe now go and try to tell the same to him that his % are worth a shit, why only telling it to me?
Because I adress your argument.
So, let me get this straight: you saying to ooper that numbers and % ain't worth shit and that ppl "cherrypick" matches - isn't it the same you did in main post? You cherrypicked matches on one of the crappiest small maps, screenshotted high numbers - and now saying that guy is a cheater "cuz numbers". Am I having a psychotic episode or you don't apply your own logic to your own statements?
PepsiCola that occasionally screenshoots + stats can't serve as a proof
Only for people that have recorded stat-track of playing badly and then improving overnight. Like suddenly jumping from 10~%acc to 60+ and gaining more kills than usual against good players without camping or spawnlocking. Even in that case it doesn't prove much, just flags player for further investigation.
Schizazoid on one of the crappiest small maps,
This map gives a good fun, I know this map is much about spamming & camping, but the fun it gives is crazy nice, and you are just insulting the creator, I don't like it, you could stop at saying "I don't like this map", because not all maps need to suit your private taste nor all maps must be for super professional playing, some maps are for having a good fun, and there is a reason why this map is put on the server.
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This time I'm at the first place in the scoreboard in the whole game, along with two other guys, and you still crying and trolling again....wow
Whatever screenshot I put in, you troll it anyway.
The first time, you tried to troll with "%".
Now you are trolling with "kills".
If I had posted a screenshoot with 250 frags, but 350 scores, then you'd be trolling with "points" : "I have only 350 points".
By the way if you say I'm so bad, this means a player: "Whatever" is bad too because he got very similiar results to me.
Maybe I should bring him here so he hears your opinion.
You are getting boring with your selective trolling.
You cherry-pick whatever worst you can and throw against me.
Everyone can do like that.
Maybe I should start to make screenshoots of other players, then to cherry-pick the "worst" value I find in their results , ignoring their overall good results, and then paste it to show how weak they are and laught of them? Is that how you troll?
Could you finally stop talking about me like you had nothing to do in your life?
Do you like my dick in your ass or what?
Why is this guy so obsessed with cheating? I,ve gotten like 20x holyshit kills on Joust pretty regularly with a few wicked sicks that woulda rolled over into 2 if it reset and started over. Can a legit player get this score? Absolutely.
He has a reputation for doing it, admins normally get sick of it after a while and mute him.
Also if you want to die from alcohol poisoning: take a shot every time he calls someone a troll.
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jerc Why is this guy (...)
Why is this guy "jerc" so obsessed with his thinking that no one cheats, and defending every suspected players in every thread all over the forum...also there are many similiar threads/comments on this forum about different players suspected cheating, so I'm not the only one.
the_cowboy (I personally have reached godlike in similar map, Egypt to be precise).
jerc I,ve gotten like 20x holyshit kills on Joust pretty regularly with a few wicked sicks that woulda rolled over into 2 if it reset and started over. Can a legit player get this score? Absolutely.
Great stories..., any links to the stats, any screenshoots? Or do you want anybody to believe these stories? Especially the one from "jerc", as I don't trust a troll. At least I provided stats and screenshoots of "player1", you provided only fairy tales, it's you who got no evidence, but it was me who has been accused of being the one who got no evidence, this is funny.
Also as for "player1", like I already have written, many players were complainging about him, also they were trying to vote-kick him, it's time to bring them to this thread.
Ooper He has a reputation for doing it,
Not calculating your % anymore, expert? You back to trash-talking now. Lol.
Still licking Ooper's ass? You like it, don't you,? It seems you two are gays.
I'll explain what I meant above.
This is a post-study association of psychology fanatics, something like a still popular group of flat-earthers. Better not mess with them.
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So you think Earth is flat, lol
I already said that I can also suspect 50% of all players on the server, but I cannot prove it, because I watched their game and did not see any suspicion shots.
Show us all the suspicious shots for example and we'll all look and if it's not a human movement, then I promise everyone will support you (I'm the first).
Or are you waiting for someone to do it for you? like here
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Nicefu Show us
No, I already showed stats and screenshoots, as a proof that only "player1" can achieve results like 521 frags / 1658 points in 17 minutes, on CTF-1on1-Joust, now it's your all's turn to show me links and screenshoots to other players having same results like "player1". If you all are so sure that it's "so easy" to get results like "player1", then it should not be a problem for you to show which other players can achieve same results, so far you provided nothing more than trash-talking, trolling, insulting, opinions and stories, you must be kidding? Unless anybody of you provide links to stats or screenshoots,, you are just projecting / trash-talking / trolling. Wow. Holy-Shit. I can easily handle 1vs7 in argumentation, even though buckets of shit have been poured on me.
You can 1v7 in an argument? All the years you've been doing this retarded shit of posting screenshots of people who get more points then you, then say it's proof they are cheating none have been banned. You are basically saying you can't do what they are doing so they must be cheating, you've been playing the game for so mnay years and don't even know how to move and shoot at the same time, you are easily in the bottom 10% of players skill wise, your ego is so big that you can't see it as anything more then others are cheating.
Just look through the list of games played on joust with 20+ players that last more than a few minutes you see even noobs getting 400+ kills in some games isn't even that rare: https://eatsleeput.com/utstats/?p=minfo&map=CTF-1on1-Joust&page=0
PepsiCola Unless anybody of you provide links to stats
https://eatsleeput.com/utstats/?p=match&mid=34151 - look at /\k|r/\ has 1409 score. He's an allright player without any suspicious behaviour.
https://eatsleeput.com/utstats/?p=match&mid=33651 - jerc, nicefu, pissedof, jamally have score more than 1000 (i don't name other ppl with high scores, since you might suspect them of anything, idk).
Here you go. You could say it's "cherrypick"-ing or that "it's not the same" (cuz time, lower score or w/e). Well, that won't lead us anywhere. The point is: getting high numbers on joust is possible: you'll just need to be lucky enough and play for the whole match (which usually takes more than 10-15 min, since ppl tend to vote for it on busy evening).
Stop it with circlejerking numbers-screenshots-stats (especially after saying that numbers don't matter while arguing with ooper, lol) - either post a demo in addition to those things, or just stop posting altoghether, since your posts will inevitably turn into shitposting contest. Or keep doing posts like this and getting mocked, it's your life and your time do w/e.
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Ooper All the years you've been doing this retarded shit of posting screenshots of people who get more points then you, then say it's proof they are cheating none have been banned.
At least you could stop trolling and stop posting your own retarded shit:
- not "all the years", maybe few months, also I haven't played the game in the last 2 years
- not "only screenshoots" - there is about 10 demos attached with 100% proven aimbotters
- "none have been banned." - don't ask me why those 100% botters on the DEMOS are not banned, rarely anybody is banned on such trash servers
- also like already said in the other thread: LINK I played vs all of them personally, that's why I accused them, and screenshoots were only as a secondary proof / documentation, a case with "player1" is the first case based only on a screenshoot + match stats
Ooper You are basically saying you can't do what they are doing so they must be cheating, your ego is so big that you can't see it as anything more then others are cheating.
I don't have ego, botters are those with egos, you should not generalise and should not troll so much, because saying that noone cheats is not more inteligent than saying everyone cheats, it's the same, just in the opposite direction. In the thread on the HOF forum is about 10 demos attached, which one of them is not an aimbotter? Did you ever watched those fucking demos or only trolling / speaking of screenshoots, all the fucking time?
Ooper you are easily in the bottom 10% of players skill wise
Neither "combo accuracy %," nor "kills" trolling worked towards my skills, so now you are trolling with "10%", without providing any evidence, where the fuck does this "10%" comes from? From a moon? You're so angry you throw shit after shit.
Ooper Just look through the list of games
I already looked before creating the thread.
Looking again I see I missed some results.
Some more games with "player1" I forgot to link in my initial comment:
- "player1" LINK : 579 frags / 1461 points in 21 minutes
- "player1" LINK : 427 drags / 1360 points in 20 minutes
Here other players:
- "es /\k|r/\" LINK 220 frags / 1585 scores in 9 min = 415 frags / 3000 scores in 17 min WTF ? You must be kidding ?
- "O.." LINK 243 frags / 1980 scores in 20 min = 207 frags / 1683 scores in 17 min - has same points like "player1" but a half of frags
Schizazoid https://eatsleeput.com/utstats/?p=match&mid=33651 - jerc, nicefu, pissedof, jamally have score more than 1000 (i don't name other ppl with high scores, since you might suspect them of anything, idk).
Lol I saw these already, you are stupid like a bunch of rocks, you are posting some shitty examples where they played 34-36 minutes which is 2x more than 17, it's like taking stats from 2 games combined, you need to divide these results by 2 to compare to "player1" :
- pissedoffpistol 34:36 504 / 1350 = 252 frags / 675 points in 17 min
- Jamally 36:13 436 / 1234 = 218 frags / 617 points in 17 min
- jerk 34:04 361 / 1100 = 180 frags / 550 points in 17 min
- Nice^|fu 36:13 262 / 1009 = 130 frags / 505 points in 17 min
- effibrie 36:13 782 / 1969 = 391 frags / 985 points in 17 min
was already accused being a cheater: LINK, similiar result, like "player1" - a coincidence ? - Player1 36:13 630 / 1768 = 365 frags / 884 points in 17 min
Sorry, but you need to provide other examples, apart of "/\k|r/\" which I agree - is a strange case.
Ooper you see even noobs getting 400+ kills in some games isn't even that rare: https://eatsleeput.com/utstats/?p=minfo&map=CTF-1on1-Joust&page=0
Most of them seems to be shitty examples like Schizazoid provided above, better check them yourself and only provide those who are not flawed by bad math, I'm tired as for today, see you tomorrow.
...what beautiful dots. Artist, huh?
yesterday beaver, today player1, tomorrow MadMax and so on and so on.
...let's do a little statistic.
I wonder how many players he has accused elsewhere before appearing here on the forum? How many players have actually been banned because of his flawless rating? Maybe every shot he makes is a bull's-eye and no one has appreciated him here yet.
player_0, stop trolling and personal attacking like a broken CD, we should focus on the stats, like the other guys already have started.
Anyone better then him is cheating, if he didn't waste so much time with his fantasies about everyone cheating he might not be so bad at the game, but playing a match for 5 minutes, calling 20 people a cheater, calling everyone that disagrees with him a troll, then calling it a day is all he can do.
oh shit! I thought you were tired
One with /\k|r/\ is 20 min long (pretty much close to 17min, no?). And he got pretty close with score while having only half of player1's frags (well, nothing strange, because that's due to more ctf-related activities).
Your argument was that player1 has insane score, asked for examples with high scores - you got them. Now you started whole flaming thread "math is flawed", "it's not the same", "time is off", "scores is off" etc (and that's after all rant about meaningless numbers and stats, that were linked by ooper).
You cry that people don't take your "proofs" seriously, while discarding other ppl's "proofs" in the same manner. What's your point? Just to keep shitposting, while imagining yourself as some kind of hero-martyr on crusade or something?
If you really want to get "cheaters" banned, then play it by the book: use demorec (in conjuction with all the other things). Right now keeping with this "player made screenshots are as valid proof as any" and "high score = cheater" you just make things worse for everybody (like that tale about boy who cried "wolves" far too many times and all that).
PepsiCola you are stupid like a bunch of rocks
I understand your remarks to ooper, player_0 and any other guy who had mocked you here, but you're not helping yourself, your case or your "cause" by insulting me (of all ppl here), lol.
I gave you benefit of the doubt, but you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper...
I was like that too many years ago, I think everyone was like that 
. Only for some reason, when I started to play hard and learn from others (by watching videos and spec others), I started to improve little by little. Of course I'm still a noob compared to many players...
As I said before... "for someone, a week is enough, but for someone, even a year is not enough"
PS. Let him see how PUG players play.... Heart attack guaranteed 
Schizazoid I wanted to tell him the same anecdote? lol but in the end I gave up because I don't know if he knew what it was about.
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Schizazoid Your argument was that player1 has insane score, asked for examples with high scores - you got them.
You (and Oo..er) provided a bunch of shitty results, of which anybody can laught, like you didn't finish math in elementary school (and the same in case of his funny % combo accuracy calculations/comparisions), of which only 1 case is somehow similar to "player1", and another similiar but not identical case was found by me, congratulations ! Then you cry that I don't take your "proofs" seriously, while discarding my "proofs" in the same manner What's your point? Just to keep shitposting or something? At least I proved that it is not so easy, on the contrary - it is very difficult to repeat what "player1" achieves. Where are those "many players" you both were talking about the whole fucking thread? On Moon?
Schizazoid by insulting me
It doesn't bother you when they insult and troll me all the time, and suddenly it bothers you when the same is done to you by me, this is hypocrisy, you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper.
Ooper a troll
Yes, I already proved like 10 times: you, player_0, jerc are ugly trolls. By the way: a) you didn't answer the question about demos b) also where are the links to statistics you were supposed to provide? They don't exist? That's why you've switched back to a troll mode.
player_0 oh shit! I thought you were tired
So you can troll freely? No way.
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PepsiCola it is very difficult to repeat what "player1" achieves.
I didn't say "it's easy", I said "it's possible to do".
PepsiCola I proved that it is not so easy
You didn't prove anything, you just "backed up" your statement with "math", while discarding every other parameter that affects gameflow and match result. Without demo - we don't have info on how match played out (may be opponents were mindlessly spawning and getting killed - that's happens quite a lot, even outside joust).
You keep bringing stats, but you yourself refuse to use whole stats of matches you linked in starting post: look up player1's stats for ctf-related actions: it's awards additional points (I don't remember/know all numbers, but flagcovering alone gives you what, like 2pts per 1 cover-frag or something like that), so, high score and hight amount of frags on fucking joust (and any other map) doesn't tell much on itself. It's only implies that specific player had good perfomance in said match - but that's all.
PepsiCola Then you cry that
I don't cry, I point out inconsistencies in your own logic and behaviour.
PepsiCola while discarding my "proofs" in the same manner
I politely described reasoning why I (and others with at least half-functioning frontal lobe) can't take your claims in this thread seriously. You, on the other hand, resorted to comments like "You just stupid and don't get it".
PepsiCola What's your point?
If you asking, then it means you didn't put much thought in what you've red. Ok, let me explain it in dumb-dumb manner: you get "trolled" by ooper and others because you behave like a delusional and feeble minded toddler, not understanding simple things and throwing tantrums at everybody.
You post a fucking !scoreboard screenshot! and demand people to believe your claims about other players.
You post stats and say "THESE NUMBERS ARE IMPOSSIBLE!!!" but not only you use small dm map, you also use only fraction of data that stat-report provides.
When you got hit by "numbers" argument - suddenly, you claim that numbers alone don't matter and that everybody cherrypicks data. Everybody, but you, of course, you don't cherrypick, no-no-no, but for some fucking reason you don't take stats of player1 from duku, liandry and whatnot, where you see nothing out of the ordinary.
You get a valid criticism (with an explanation for it) - instead of adressing the argument you start insulting your collocutor who didn't insulted you up to this point, and start mocking him by reusing his own words but without actually putting any thought in that whatsoever.
Keep doing what you doing, champ, you're doing just great. At alienating yourself that is.
PepsiCola It doesn't bother you when they insult and troll me all the time
Well, I can't control what other people do, nor do I have to be responsible for their actions.
PepsiCola and suddenly it bothers you when the same is done to you by me,
this is hypocrisy
It's really not. What you did is hypocrisy: insulting one of the guys who didn't insulted or mocked you. Well, till now at least. Yet, I didn't insult you in this post directly, I just pointed out how your bitching here looks in the eyes of the beholder(s).
If you still won't understand what is wrong with your behaviour and logic after reading this, well, sorry, I gave you too much credit, won't happen again. I suggest getting an appointment with neurologist, do a MRI, check your diet, hit the gym, eat some vitamins - get better. And yeah, leave us: "trolls" and "cheaters" behind - that'll do wonders for your overall wellbeing.
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Wow, what a wall of shit, unable to compute, he has projected...he must be on drugs...he compares 36 min to 17 min, lol.
Oo.er compares % of combo players's acc to % of instagib primary weapon players's acc, player_0 thinks Earth is flat.
And that's the kind of experts we have here, mathematics professors...
even seppuku cant kill this samurai
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I didn't read any of it but... Player 1 a cheater? ROTFLOL
This is what happens happens in Democracy and its major flaw... the fucking Village IDIOT has the same VOTE weight as the normal person.
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Many players when they see such a bizarre result for the first time with their eyes, the first thing they will think is that it must be a cheater, because a logical mind says that no fair player can achieve such bizzare results, especially when also seeing many other players calling "player1" a cheater and vote-kicking him.
Even if "player1" is a fair and skilled player, I don't feel guilty nor I feel being an "fucking Village IDIOT", because it's not my fault that life is a bitch who cheats, makes jokes and is so fucking surprising, and you are still a bunch of fucked up trolls and fucking village idiots, because of your hate speech, trolling and personal attacks.
And player_0 thinks Earth is flat, haha.
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[deleted] hmm I got interested in critique of democracy, then I read this. False alarm, no actual critique.
Not to say I completely disagree with you. For instance a stupid vegetable vendor who makes vulgar noises to sell the vegies shouldn't be having same vote weight. That doesn't mean every fruit vendor should have less weight. Just specific entities with selfdestructive personality, in my books of course.