@X-Cellerator

According to some player chat Leviathan-winter crashes the player when he uses d3d. He was able to re-enter the server once he switched to xopengl. This was a player on v469, of course, but I'm afraid I don't know which d3d version that comes with as default or which the player was using. It also seemed as though a lot of players dropped out when the map loaded so it could be affecting quite a few, not sure though.

If you end up fixing it and rebuilding the map there was one thing I noticed while testing that you might consider adding while you are at it. Some red and blue base markings at each end. If you are up high and/or have just spawned you can't always be sure which base is which.

Do you think liandri will also have the same fault for d3d players since they share some dependencies, assuming that is the cause?

Esuoh if x-cell needs it could you grab the exact error message from your UnrealTournament.log the next time you have the crash before you restart the game.

ok , i tried d3d9 and opengl original, both crashed.

i will try , how can i make a copy of that log?

Look in your UnrealTournament System folder, sort by date DESC, it will be called UnrealTournament.log.

Hmm havent had an error. I just ran across those snow files in a map I downloaded. I am not a coder so this may be out of my expertise.

Did some testing and it turns out that the error doesn't get printed in the log. I ran it in a v436 wine install and got it to crash. Here was the error:

Found there is more than one snow.u on the server. The other one has a setupsnow function that does some recursion if it can't spawn the snow at the randomly chosen location ( the gist of it anyway ).

md5sum SNOW.U
2061c535e53a5f0915256a87ffc7914a  SNOW.U
md5sum Snow.u
f2c800f11329fc99005ecff23d1dd942  Snow.u

I removed the offending Snow.u file but then the server couldn't load the map because it was looking for the SnowGen class in the Snow.uax and Snow.utx files that were also on the server. Removed those Snow files and everything seems to run fine now for both the client and the server.

This is a good example of why it is important to create unique names for everything.

Before I can make these changes on the public server, I will need to check all the other winter maps to make sure they don't rely on the removed Snow files.

Will have to wait until tomorrow for that though as I used up all my free time the last couple days getting the christmas config up to date. Strange that it didn't also happen on liandri-winter but maybe it will still happen on that one too, hope not but will see.

    snowguy I wonder if a coder can simply rename the call out in the files, I have sent you. Like I said I can't code for shiznet. If some can fix these files we all can simply not use the ones I sent sooner. Like I said I found them in a map and simply saved them and re used them. This way you do not have to delete them from other use cases, since you have no problems till I gave you these found files. Sucks because this set is really easy to configure in ED. Like how much snow, how fast and so on.

        Wow I am tired that all sounds like i am a stupid a$$

        X-Cellerator
        That is a good idea and should be simple to do however, the first thing I did was opened the all caps SNOW.U file in a text editor to look for the SetupSnow function but didn't find one of course. I then tried to decompile it with wot_greal to see if I was missing something but for some reason it wouldn't decompile. Could be I was just rushing and it has been a long while since I used that program to do stuff like that but it seems like something may have been stripped from the code or some such shenanigans. I'll see what I can figure out tomorrow.

          X-Cellerator Like I said I found them in a map and simply saved them and re used them. This way you do not have to delete them from other use cases, since you have no problems till I gave you these found files. Sucks because this set is really easy to configure in ED. Like how much snow, how fast and so on.

          I took another look and definitely can't decompile the code from that SNOW.U file for some reason. Maybe I misunderstood your suggestion. It seems odd that the server looks for the class it needs from the same named .uax and .utx file, I can't remember if I've ever run into that problem before. If it wasn't for that, the solution would be simply to remove the other snow.u file.

          Could you maybe take a look at using the one medor sent us (SnowUT99) here for the snowAt mutator if it isn't too much work and/or whenever you have time? Here is the release for it I think:
          https://ut99.org/viewtopic.php?t=12440

          It has a decent set of config options for the editor it seems:

          var() float   Height;
var() float   Radius;
var() int     MaxDrops;
var() float   MinAirResistanceFactor;
var() float   MaxAirResistanceFactor;
var() vector  WindVelocity;
var() bool    bBlockByActors;

            @snowguy Ok it worked. Took me a while to find the actor to add. I basically had to load the actor in order to see it in the actors panel. I can use this if you want and fix the other maps... Let me know if you want this to happen. I can change both the maps I converted to SnowUT99.u maps. I like this one better anyway. How ever Doesn't seem like I can make the whole map snow with this file. Only smaller areas. Even know there is a option for radius. I have tried to change the 512 area to 1500 and it doesn't seem to expand the radius. How ever I can add a few in the map in the areas where we want snow 🙂

            Edit: Its even a better file. It seems more realistic. The snow sticks to the ground for a second.........

            Edit2: Ok it does work. I set it to 1500 Radius and bam it worked.

              X-Cellerator

              Awesome, that would be great if you could update the maps to use this SnowUT99 version instead. I had some trouble setting the radius with admin set commands, when I played with it the other day, for some reason too. It seemed to intermittently work in that case.

              Just one note to be careful and not add too many as it will affect the server's performance even though this one is designed to reuse actors for that very reason. Possibly reducing the maxdrops could help reduce the load on the server.

              In my testing, which probably isn't exactly transferable to other CPUs, the server seemed to incur a 3-5% increase in CPU utilization for each additional snowActor with its default settings. (maxdrops 150 IIRC). That was on an i7 4790k for what it's worth. For me anyway, subtle snow in various areas throughout the map would be fine. Thanks for taking the time to work on this again.

                ctf-leviathan-winter-2023.zip
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                Rock on try this one out. I made it to tell what side was red and blue as well. Also added some ice on the ledge for more effect. I do not want to change these maps to much without permission. I still feel weird working on someone else's maps without asking.

                This is using Your new file and working great. Only added one actor and made the size fit the map. Works great on my end. I will change the Docks map tomorrow I am going to watch the fights tonight lol

                  Also, I am working on a pretty kool map with a reactor in the middle. Hope to have some images real soon. I will be making a winter version as well. Seems we are on a kick right now with snow 🙂

                  There was also a little problem with the acient-pyramidemap , i thinks its called , Some people only had 50-60fps. Unplayable. Maybe if you could check that out , to see if you also got that problem.

                    X-Cellerator Rock on try this one out. I made it to tell what side was red and blue as well. Also added some ice on the ledge for more effect. I do not want to change these maps to much without permission. I still feel weird working on someone else's maps without asking.

                    Great! I tried it in a practice session and it looks really good now with the new snow. Also, thanks for adding the base markings.

                    X-Cellerator This is using Your new file and working great. Only added one actor and made the size fit the map. Works great on my end. I will change the Docks map tomorrow I am going to watch the fights tonight lol

                    I'm glad you are redoing them with the new snow. I checked the dependencies of all the other winter maps that are on the server and none of them use either snow.u file. I removed all versions except the all caps SNOW.U on the test server and now when I voted liandri-winter the server wouldn't load the map. Redoing them with the new snow file will avoid any future problems for anyone. I really appreciate you fixing this. Looking forward to your new map also.

                        ESUOH There was also a little problem with the acient-pyramidemap , i thinks its called , Some people only had 50-60fps. Unplayable. Maybe if you could check that out , to see if you also got that problem.

                        Weird, I don't ever remember having frame drops on that CTF-Ancient-Egypt map but it is a little rough around the edges and people don't generally like it much. I only put it on the server because I played it on a popular ctf-server a long time ago. Wouldn't be a big loss to remove this map I guess. I'll add it to the list to remove at some point.

                            snowguy ok , yea sbt and some others had the same drops , indeed very weird. Maybe best to remove like you said , its not really a good map 🙂

                                snowguy I neither had those frame drops before , only yesterday . Maybe some serverissues at that time , i don't know , it was strange that he didn't want to go above 60 .

                                  ESUOH There was also a little problem with the acient-pyramidemap , i thinks it's called, some people only had 50-60fps. Unplayable. Maybe if you could check that out , to see if you also got that problem.

                                  I can take a look at this map. If it's an old map and everyone likes it and I can't find the owner maybe I can tweak it and make it better 🙂

                                  EDIT
                                  Found a few problems, like one thing there was a Blue flag floating in space lol. Also you can fall off the side of the map. There is really a lot of things that can be improved. But really people like this plan map lol. It was Released in 2004 I assume finding the creator is out of the question. If you like this map, I can redesign it to better fit 2023. Lert me know.