Can we at least consider a referendum on hopping?: Page 5

UTNL · 2024-04-23T11:23:05+00:00

I've honestly been holding off posting this for a while, but after the experience I just had, I think it's time. It seems like we're all willing to accept...

Can we at least consider a referendum on hopping?

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Just adapt

Keep doing what you're doing Annoying

atezris

My frag count drops considerably when I hop, but it’s fun, I can’t help it. The same happens with insane combos, most the plasma balls I shoot must be exploded, because... it's fun, again.

Other guys find their joy spawnkilling, camping next to their flag to get juicy points or just playing TDM for the frag count (often 0 caps, 0 grabs, 0 assists).

If I hop, in each landing I can't shot and it's a very predictable path, we use almost same patterns, easy targets. (I get the most deaths so often)

Sometimes when I defend, I see other hop players easy preys, and it's fun (again) predict their intentions, some good aim (TDM) players tends to camp in same spots, and so on...

Finally we can get to used to all playstyles and try to counter them.

SoulCollector

atezris I've seen you hop and you are extremely fast. It's not easy stopping you, it's work lol.

Covid_A_Swab

atezris so when are you gonna make a video tutorial? or anyone.

atezris

SoulCollector And I’ve seen you waiting on the paths I usually go and owning my ass beautifully, that's the way.

atezris

Covid_A_Swab It's like the Ann0ying posted video but using the grapple, the easy way is use the grapple in front of you like between -15° to -25° angle pointing to the floor, wait until you're pulled then jump, if you notice a faster movement, you are almost there, just keep jumping on each landing, how to do it?, I use these:

User.ini

[Engine.Input]
W=MoveForward
MouseWheelDown=OnRelease XVJumpReleased|JumpRel|DoubleJump|Jump
MouseWheelUp=OnRelease XVJumpReleased|JumpRel|DoubleJump|Jump

So in short:

keep moving forward
point grapple to the floor with a good angle
as soon as you’re pulled, jump!
faster movement?, a little before landing (almost the same time), jump!
scroll!
go to step 4

The best map for training this is Hall of Fame (extra large map) in London 2.

Ann0ying

Covid_A_Swab

Ann0ying it says you need to hold "walk" key? dont they mean the "run" key ? the walk key is never used and make you walk slowly.

Ooper

Look in the control options, you can see an entry for walk key, you hold the walk key as you land while pressing jump, you don't have to use walk to bounce it just makes it a bit easier.

Ann0ying

contrary to what Ooper states:

Ooper you don't have to use walk to bounce it just makes it a bit easier.

you do need to keep pressing "W" (or whatever your MoveForward key is) otherwise you'll loose momentum..

jerc

LOL if you fuck around enough you can bounce left, right, running backwards it just takes time to learn
Atezris must have a fancy infinite scroll wheel because I have to time him a little more closely.

atezris

jerc

I got this one, not that fancy, pretty common scroll and very comfortable.

player_0

jerc Atezris must have a fancy infinite scroll wheel because I have to time him a little more closely.

I must have missed this entry then.

I have a feeling that it doesn't depend on his fancy infinite scroll wheel that he's hard to hit. I'm more betting on unofficial settings or his internet provider.

There are certain players who are almost untouchable in the air (those who mostly use grapple and/or bouncing). They're always the same people.

I don't want to insinuate anything, but it's strange that when we compare two players with similar pings and we want to hit them when they're approaching us using, for example, a grapple hook. One player can be hit without any problems, and the other player is ALWAYS problematic, and these are players who most often use the hook - because they know that they're hard to hit in the air.

I'm giving an example of a hook, because with bouncing it could be explained by different speeds and maneuverability while jumping. And when we pull ourselves using a grapple hook, we can't dodge or move, and the speed is the same for everyone, so what's going on here?

Ooper

It's pretty self explanatory that you need to use a movement key to move

jerc

I just got a new mouse wheel is stiff like a rachet and my right pinky ends up dragging on the mouse pad but it was cheap lol. I got a really nice Roccat with a broken wheel I wonder if I can mod it to infinite scroll when I fix it.

MegaXor

I find it annoying when a player bounces, or bunny hops or whatever it's called with the flag.
It reduces the game's fun.

Is it possible to add a poll to see how many people approve this?

Schizazoid

There's really no point in doing it.
1) Most people playing don't really care much about most things (hell, just try to ask ppl to votekick some obvious aimbotter who didn't even tries to conceal himself - nobody would care - I've seen it back when cowboy was messing around).
2) Bouncing ain't that big of an issue.
3) You can get a feeling what "community"s opinion on bouncing just by reading some of the posts above: some defend it as if their life depend on it, others dislike it. And it's kinda close to 50/50_ish.

Snakefinger

Hot bone!

jerc

Most who complain just can't do it other than ooper all the complaints are by non bouncers and he isn't complaining all that hard.

MegaXor

From what I read above, most players prefer without it, but we won't really know or agree without a poll.

Anyone can learn how to bounce if he wanted to. Bouncing is relatively new and it's changing this age old loved game without everyone's consent.
Would have been preferable if it were a mod per map like low gravity.

Til then, just want the bouncers to know that it's not fun playing with them.

jerc

No one changed anything the IG servers all sit empty because no one wants to be bored to death.

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