What really? You can toggle a cheat on or off? Wow your knowledge is huge.

I found the stats link after I posted my first response(that's why its highlighted as Edited), I have two eyes and could see in the video even in that one holy shit he was missing shots. Post timestamp of that video you feel are strange.

If you want solid evidence, you need to find patterns in a players behaviour, one example video with no timestamps of concern, you need multiple examples instead of posting one video with very vague text.

    the_cowboy Dude chill pls, I am a former competitive player. Among other things, I played for the German national team in the Clanbase Nations Cup. We became world champions twice in UT2003 and UT2004. I dont cheat! So chill pls.

        Lol he's not talking about you.

          Besides all that UnrealShots is an amazing player and i'm sure he doesnt cheat! I've been with him in TS, he is a friendly guy and i've seen him in action more than once.
          I'm not a botsupp but in this case you're dead wrong in spite of all the stats or vids!

          Ooper OK everything good. only seemed that way because he started writing triggerbot on the server yesterday

              T3ddy

              Maybe he just suspected one of the other players used one.... 😛

                Yes the guy is good of all the league matches I've watched I would say he's the best.

                T3ddy Hmm ok. I am sorry you had to read some of the text. Unlike our learned friend here I am willing to be patient and learn without developing any ego.

                I was concerned about dwwd because using that unfamiliar nicks are some of the few signs of rage botters. If you were a competitive player that may explain 40% accuracy. I'd say Kudos!!

                All I wanted is to gauge some statistics (even if very rough factor) for botters. How much accuracy you reckon they have (> 83?).

                Also in some countries obstructing a democratic process is a crime. Our learned friend is far from those nations because he has no respect for one.

                    Ooper Post timestamp of that video you feel are strange.


                    1. that jerk (not you jerc 😃) in the aim following the player on jumpad)
                      Don't give me he missed that because that is what smooth interpolation does. There is usually a setting in bots. EDIT: However on repeated looping, seems lesser of interpolation.

                    2. you may see there are three red in blue base and one blue spawning. If I were a bot I'd scan the enemy each tick and if not found I'd try to aim enemy out of my field of view which could look like this. This is strange in the sense why would I turn 90 degree right while jumping down when someone could be firing from front. Something only bots do usually, in my books.

                    Since several people have raised their voice vouching for the player. I think I'd learn to live with this.

                        I'll just try to add a little to the conversation. I'm not sure if this is UnrealShots or not. I will say that this player has been playing alone for hours every night for weeks or more on the London 2 server against the average bots. I believe he plays there for target practice which is precisely why I leave the bots on the servers with pretty low skill. Not saying this proves anything but it seems he has been actively practicing this aim.

                        the_cowboy All I wanted is to gauge some statistics (even if very rough factor) for botters. How much accuracy you reckon they have (> 83?).

                        It is hard to say what accuracy a botter would have. It would almost certainly be adjustable in any cheat. To give one example, this is a known and banned cheater with ~64% accuracy:
                        https://eatsleeput.com/utstats/?p=pinfo&pid=3551

                        That same player is listed many times in UTStats with different aliases if you click Players and sort by the acc column. Meaningful accuracy numbers, of course, would need to have a decent amount of play time maybe greater than 5 to 10 minutes or so. I could delete those entries but left them for exactly this sort of study. Once I get the ranking issues fixed, I will remove the known cheater entries.

                        Nicefu posted some video from this cheater in the following thread. This was a very obvious cheater. To be clear, I'm not saying all cheats would be this easy to spot but it's interesting to notice that it still only achieved 64% accuracy while being so blatantly obvious:
                        https://eatsleeput.com/d/71-russian-cheater

                        Some very good players who are most likely not cheating have been able to achieve very high accuracy in the past as high as 60% or so. It is pretty dependent on the map and the opponent's skill level. You have to look at it as just another data point and not as proof of cheating alone, of course.

                        the_cowboy This is strange in the sense why would I turn 90 degree right while jumping down when someone could be firing from front. Something only bots do usually, in my books.

                        This could be explained by watching the video starting at around 0:40 seconds, you can see dwwd try to shoot this player as they used the jumpad to get out on that right side platform but he was a little late on the shot. So, when he drops down he checks that platform to see if his missed shot is still out there (or he might have even noticed shots coming from that direction before dropping down).

                        I don't think this player is cheating but I will check further just in case. Thanks for posting the video.

                            the_cowboy everything OK. I'm calmed down :>. When it comes to accuracy, it's always hard to gauge. A small example. We had a defender on our team with an 82% end-of-season accuracy rate. There were also always admins in the Spectator on the server who watched and checked him again and again and it turned out again and again that everything was clean. Of course, these statistics were only recorded for the entire league games. So I think it's always very difficult to judge based on statistics. I think I would notice if someone cheated. So far I haven't even had that feeling on the server.

                              Yes I was in this game and when he started yelling trigger bot I thought he was talking to T3ddy at first myself.

                              The two shots you posted are easy shots, if you have a mouse sens you can control you can do smoother looking movement, it looks like they have pretty low sense going by how slow their 180 turns are.

                              Also don't forget that w00t even though it's a bit less played then it used to be has been one of the most played maps for at least 10 years, people using the jumpads always go in the same direction and arc to the point, most players don't track the players movement but aim at certain points especially if you want the flag to be auto returned.

                              I don't think this player is a cheat (although anything is possible)

                              IMO the whole problem is zeroping. I hope you know how it works? only players with about 100+ pings can kill players by skipping the server, which is strange for me (because it seems that zeroping works selectively). That's why we see players with 100+ pings (from US, Chili...) with such strange high hits.

                              This is all my observation and my opinion of course...😉

                              I need some of this skipping juice.

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                              There are some really good Fraggers that show up on the server from time to time. T3ddy is good but it never crossed my mind he is cheating. There's also another Italian dude that hits a bit too much, but when I see dudes with 250 ping and 78-82% eff Yes I suspect something. Then there is the regular one that I suspect he turns it On and Off 🙂

                              You know what's weird? I played on a server where my ping was 150....170 (London 2 and others) and I almost did not hit the enemy (from 4 or 6 times I could hit) and I understand this and accept it as normal.

                              And now explain plz HOW they make Hollyshit? 🙂 Does the law of physics not apply to them? 🙂

                              You just lead your shots

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