New NW CTF Face Only Grapple Server -- London

snowguy · 2023-02-22T18:46:11+00:00

I waited a long time for someone to put up a replacement for the old popular Face only server in Europe that disappeared a year or more ago but I only saw on...

New NW CTF Face Only Grapple Server -- London

drunken_fool

Nice server plays well.
Imho an all weapon face server needs the regular translocator. There's certain things you can do with it that makes face game play fun.
Like using piston or shock to shoot translocator and port fast in enemy base or to hide it and port back to home base quickly.
I know a trick to shoot translocator with primary shock and port fast in 3rd floor in enemy base,
Also with grapple people are going to port and move under the map making it a mess.
BTW in the middle of the map given the structure of it there's not a lot of places to set hook for grapple and bunny hopping could become a problem.

snowguy

drunken_fool
Glad it plays well for you.

Completely understand about the trans but the last popular Face server in Europe was grapple and it had quite the following. Just trying to get some of those players back for now. I am planning to make the sniper arena server trans instead of grapple but I have doubts that any new server will attract players, to be honest 🙁

Might consider adding translocator in addition to the grapple on the face server if it's something that people want and if it doesn't create any issues trying to have them both.

Bunny hopping shouldn't really be much of a problem on Face. You can't really bunny hop up slopes and the only way I can see it really being used to an advantage is if you impact jump from the center of the map with the flag towards home and get a bounce or 2 into your base. If someone is good enough for that, may as well let them have it.

X-Cellerator

drunken_fool

I can help with all that 🙂
I can add hidden blockers for the lower end and add like a tower in the middle to grapple to.. Just a thought

player_0

snowguy For any that don't know "flag boosting" is the "bug"

I know you can do this with a flag, and I used to often capture flags this way. But I didn't know, it's a bug. This throwing of the flag after the explosion does not seem strange to suggest otherwise. Besides, good to know.

snowguy Bunny hopping shouldn't really be much of a problem on Face

...and that's where you're wrong 🙂 I know that you can bounce on gentle hills, but it's much more difficult, and on a slope like the one on the Face map or the one at the top in Fragwhore.

friendofafriend

the_cowboy
After that server went down a admin has been hosting a copy of that server. its still up 173.255.196.28:7777 im surprised he has kept it up for so many years. anyways that server has the best anti piston camper mod imo it gives you 3 seconds of piston camping before killing you. it also has the best face map but snow already has it.

I must say playing face with the grapple feels so weird but whatever attracts more players. I always enjoyed the translocator tricks you could do on face.

snowguy

friendofafriend After that server went down a admin has been hosting a copy of that server. its still up 173.255.196.28:7777 im surprised he has kept it up for so many years. anyways that server has the best anti piston camper mod imo it gives you 3 seconds of piston camping before killing you. it also has the best face map but snow already has it.

I noticed there were a few Face only servers in the US over the last year or two but hadn't seen much activity on them whereas the old one in Europe was pretty popular. Probably won't get that way again but thought it was worth a try.

As for the LE200 version of the face map, it was a difficult decision to make to choose that one actually. It fixes a couple glitches and if it didn't also fix some BSP errors etc. I definitely wouldn't have chosen to use it since all the glitching and tricky stuff is exactly what the face players seem to look for or learn to use after so much time playing the same map repeatedly.

This is the main reason why I'm carefully considering what to allow and disallow. If you sanitize things too much it will just make playing the same map over and over even more stale.

Not saying I won't use an anti-piston camp mod at some point and the 3-second one sounds ideal but there was a nice write up from a self proclaimed piston camper that makes a good case for allowing it. I posted it here before and both links from the thread are a good read so I'll link the thread here for anyone that might have missed it:
https://eatsleeput.com/d/115-the-making-of-facing-worlds-unreal-tournaments-most-popular-map

friendofafriend

snowguy
That's what I liked about LE200. It didn't remove any glitches(that i know of). It just made the map balanced. All it did was remove the invisible wall next to rockets on blue base and I think some more invisible walls on the tower. All the glitches that i'm aware of like falling off the ledges still work.

I dont think the server needs the mod at all. back in the day sure, but not now. it was just a suggestion after many years of 24/7 face that was the final mod they settled with. It was much better than instantly dying like other anti camper piston mods out there.

jerc

SnowGuy thinks we are all poor and can only afford the demo version of UT 😉

Jacey

A sniper server would be nice too 🙂

no0ne

snowguy

fv-antipistoncampmutator1.zip

6kB

snowguy

The hosting provider for this server is unfortunately discontinuing their London location. This server will be moved to a new server in Amsterdam with a new IP address in the next week or so.

There really hasn't been many players on this server at all anyway so I'm considering discontinuing the face only server at this point.

I'm also considering moving the Normal Weapons London server to this new location as the hardware and connectivity is supposed to be better. Will finalize the plans after the server is moved and the new server is tested. I will then update this thread accordingly.

Ooper

Are the servers running 469D?

snowguy

Ooper Are the servers running 469D?

Not yet, I'm very behind on my updates and task list for everything really. Are you suggesting to use the new DNS feature? I definitely need to set that up for times like this.

snowguy

player_0 I know you can do this with a flag, and I used to often capture flags this way. But I didn't know, it's a bug. This throwing of the flag after the explosion does not seem strange to suggest otherwise. Besides, good to know.

Well, from a physics standpoint I suppose it isn't really a bug in that you would expect an explosion's blast wind to send a flag flying like it does but using this to make quick captures was likely to be unintended by the designers so I have called it a bug. In reality, the flag being so close to an explosion would probably obliterate it so there is another argument to it being termed a bug 🙂

player_0 ...and that's where you're wrong 🙂 I know that you can bounce on gentle hills, but it's much more difficult, and on a slope like the one on the Face map or the one at the top in Fragwhore.

Cool, I didn't know you could bounce up the hill on face. It's no longer my problem though if I shut the server down 😌

Ooper

snowguy Not aware of the DNS thing, just the significant reduction in CPU usage I was thinking about.

jerc

it takes a better bouncer than me to bounce up that hill. I honestly don't think you can get more than 1 or 2 bounces before you lose momentum the incline make each bounce shorter so for lack of a better word you stub out.

player_0

jerc
I also thought some time ago that with the next bounce the jump gets shorter and shorter. This definitely happens when you bounce with the walk key or when you turn the wheel too slowly. Alternatively, your joystick may be fucked up

snowguy

Ooper

Forgot about that, thanks for the reminder. 🍻 I will try to get to that soon, very eager to see how much of a difference there will be.

jerc

player_0 In theory with you can bounce forever if you have a good ping, good timing and don't run into anything that bleeds off the momentum. I don't walk key bounce very often only to start a bounce when I cant use the grapple or get a boost. LOL I'm Starting to wonder if you are serious about the joystick LMAO.

snowguy

Another update on this Face Only server. It has now been moved to a new server in Amsterdam. I went ahead and updated it to v469d RC4 and the latest FNN 248. Also, added the translocator for those that asked for that.

Here is the new IP address and port or you can just check the status thing on the main page here for a clickable unreal URL.
103.214.68.71:7782

jerc

snowguy Amsterdam yay we can smoke weed there.

Ooper

jerc Set a low frame rate and try again, when i locked fps to 141 It felt even easier to bounce, I could be wrong though.

player_0

jerc
Me? Yes, full seriousness, and you don't use it?