Why do people dump on SnowGuy for not banning players because they shoot you too much. I hope most of you are asking for these bans as a way to vent and not actually believe they will be seriously considered. If they ain't cheating or sabotaging the game he probably isn't gonna ban them.

I honestly don't care anymore, if they're on and spam/bounce whatever I just switch the server, problem solved. How are they not sabotaging the game tho? let's take a small map which inevitably gets picked when server is full such as crates or lava, you have 3 or 4 guys blasting combos into spawn and 3 others cap, you can't even spawn for the duration of the match. How is that NOT considered sabotage or "soft cheat"? you literally can't spawn until it's 7:0. Yeah, fun match, thanks, i'll pass

jerc I hope most of you are asking for these bans as a way to vent and not actually believe they will be seriously considered

Ofc it is! Some people doesnt seem to understand its just a joke and has nothing to do with ego etc. I guess they look too much in the mirror.

This is not sabotage, it is just an unthoughtful or thought out (for a different game mode) layout of respawn locations and that Caligula chose his own method that he can afford and that is most convenient for him, does not make him a person who should be banned. True, he is annoying, I have experienced it myself many times, but it seems to me that it is an exaggeration to get rid of players for such a reason, especially since it is a public server where the rules are more general. Following this line of thinking, it would also be necessary to get rid of similar players, because it is not only Caligula who does this. At least 4-5 more players would not be allowed along with him. Do you really want that?

drunken_fool Not sure why you guys getting mad at caligula and company.

I don't really think they are mad, for example I just mentioned him just for trolling, it's nice to have diverse playstyle on a public server, yesterday I was on a game almost with all top aimers and realized players like CALIGULA are a necessary evil just to keep the game casual and fun.

The skill gap is already high now for new/noob players (including me), just let them get their fun.

Just like jerc said, anything but cheat and sabotage its good for me.

As far as spawnkilling on certain maps goes, something like a .2-.5 second spawn-protection would be a big benifit vs spawn campers, however on bigger maps that would be a problem.

End of the day it's just pubs so most people just deal with it, plenty who pick small maps with 14+ players so that's a supply/demand issue.

I didn't mean it as less important, but rather that pubs are a more casual environment and people play accordingly. Pugs are where balance changes end up being more important but it tends to be a barrier of entry of sorts.

Closest example I know is Team Fortress 2, where most pub servers that have tried implementing a CP6v6 mode (competitive mode) with all the differences that come along with it nearly all failed, in a game that has a massive player-base, even minor changes weren't well favored amongst the casual players and there were many instances of this being tried.

In UT it's hard to say what would/would not work, I think a .2 second spawn protection on only the s maps would likely be a good change but anything more would likely be too much. Then again just leaving it as is seems ok too, the server is very populated regardless.

Spawn protection can hinder attackers though on some maps, LiandriDocks is awful with spawn protection with the way the spawns are laid out, generally using a shock ball to block a spammers combo is the only way to stop them, because if you shoot their shockball with primary fire you get killed and do nothing to the spammer.

Tweaking the self damage so you still don't do any damage to yourself(doing trick shots like bustacell for example won't do any damage to yourself), but if an enemy shoots your shockball self damage is applied meaning spammers will get punished if they are at close range.

It's like a reccuring theme isn't it spawn protection of 0,5 secs should be enough to be able to move from spam idiots in time to kill them and don't gives out too much edge to defense for when frag getters are trying to get out

Prefer bife to one of those players that go to spec as soon as their team is 1 cap down, but is fine if their team is 6 caps up.

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